Who won the Nas vs. Jay Z beef?

Kinda continuation from the thread on Takeover but who do you guys think won the beef?
The common argument for Jay is Nas just went for gay jokes and it was childish, my rebuttal being Nas did use facts and Jay started with the gay jokes
The common argument for Nas is that Jay had tried to get with him on a song and attacked Nas after a while and he got shut down by Nas, my rebuttal to that is Jay did drop a lot of facts going against Nas that go ignored
My opinion: Nas won, Takeover wasn’t as good of a diss as it needed to be, it got to Mobb Deep but not enough to shut down Nas. And the fact that he had Supa Ugly only hurt him because he had just gotten killed and then his second response just wasn’t good enough.

what's your opinion ? who do you think won the beef?

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7 reasons why tupac is still alive

Below are the top 7 reasons why 2Pac is still alive. I have heard over 50 reasons to prove he is alive, but I decided on the top 7...

1. 2Pac now calls himself Makaveli... Machiavelli was an Italian war strategist who advocated faking one's death to fool their enemies... 2Pac was a fan of his and had read his books several times. Perhaps 2Pac is taking his advice...

2. 2Pac was cremated the day after he died... Since when does some one get cremated the day after a murder? There was no autopsy. Plus, no one can ask to dig up his grave. (In the new book entitled "Death Of Tupac Shakur" there is a picture of 2Pac receiving an autopsy. This may prove this reason to be false, or it's a fake (edited) picture. To my knowledge, 2Pac did not reveive an autopsy though. I don't know about this picture...)


3. The cover of 2Pac's latest album, Makaveli has 2Pac looking like Jesus Christ... Could he be planning a resurrection? (I am almost sure Death Row Records did this themselves for the publicity. It just adds to the whole 2Pac alive stuff which has been getting the album more sales.)

4. The producer on the new Makaveli album is simply "SIMON." This was the apostle who helped Jesus carry the cross and one of the first to witness his resurrection. Could Suge be SIMON?

5. There are many numerological coincidences. Tupac was gunned down exactly seven months after All Eyez On Me was released. The number seven keeps coming up too. He was shot on September 7th and survived on 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and died the 13th. This could explain the title of his new album.... "The Don Killuminati: The 7 day theory." 2pac was 25. His age adds up to 7 (2 + 5). Even his time of death, 4:03, adds up to 7 (4 + 0 + 3). Also, on track five on the Makaveli album the voice at the begining says "And if the Lord returns in the coming seven days, then we'll see ya next time." He even talks about the number 7 on his album! There are more 'coincidences' too.. The newest is on his brand new double album entitled "R U Still Down?". This album was released on November 25th. 2 + 5 = 7. The 7 day theory continues! What's with this?

6. Inside the cover of 2Pac's newest album, it reads "Exit: 2pac, Enter: Makaveli" as if 2pac has died and Makaveli born. There is also that statement by 2Pac saying when he came out it would be like he was reborn. (he says this on the press, that if he goes to jail he would be like he was reborn when he comes out)

7. 2Pac's video 'I Ain't Mad At Ya' foretold his death .... 2Pac dies in that video. Then a new video came out under the name "Makaveli". Its just like 2Pac died in "I Ain't Mad At Cha", and Makaveli was born in "Toss It Up". Exit 2Pac Enter: Makaveli. It all makes sense!

so are you convinced that 2pac is still alive or ?

The greatest hip hop lyricist of all times

1. The Notorious B.I.G.

There hasn't been a single hip-hop figure who embodied everything the premise of the idiom portrays more than Christopher Wallace. Like all great art, rap was founded on contradiction, a constant display of provocative punchlines. Nobody was better at taking that stereotypical hip-hop persona and redefining it with each line, each verse, each song. For as unassuming or awkward as B.I.G. was one minute, he was just as confident and confrontational the next. While the words that came from his mouth constantly echoed bravado, they were never overshadowed by the sensitivity that crept its way into each one of his utterances on wax.
Take 1994's "Warning". "Who the fuck is this? / Pagin' me at 5:46 in the mornin' / Crack a dawnin' / Now I'm yawnin' / Wipe the cold out my eye / See who's this pagin' me and why", he proclaims during the track's first few seconds. At first glance, it may seem fairly simple, but alas the simplicity is where the brilliance truly lies -- B.I.G. knew precisely how to set the tone and the scenery for a story that would be woven into and subsequently told over a sample of Isaac Hayes' "Walk on By", which, in hindsight, was a pretty clever move in and of itself.
But that was B.I.G.'s genius -- he knew how to create scenery so vividly with words that one has to think he would have had a great second career as a novelist if he would have stuck around long enough. That's not to say his wordplay wasn't top notch -- just give a listen to the second verse of his Jay-Z collaboration, "Whatchu Want", released years after his death, or his classic records "Juicy" or "Hypnotize", and you'll quickly be reminded that he could also turn phrases on their head to prove his point -- but even so, what sets him above others was his ability to create atmosphere with his detail. Lyrically, Christopher Wallace embodied all of what continues to make hip-hop as great as it is today. He was vivid. He was honest. He was contradictory. He was sensitive. He was smart. And most of all, he was poetic.

You Probably don't agree with this. As you probably can argue that others have made better crossover tracks. You can argue that others have made more complex tracks. You can argue that others have made more provocative tracks. But the one thing you can't argue is that when it comes to what makes rap music so transcending, so revolutionary, so inspiring, there is only one guy who ever laid it out in front of you as poignantly and as epitomized as anyone who ever spit 16 bars on record could. And that guy was Notorious but please do comment with arguments and/or how you feel about biggie or who you think did/is doing it better than him.

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birth of hip hop(rap)

Although widely considered a synonym for rap music, the term hip-hop refers to a complex culture comprising four elements: deejaying, or “turntabling”; rapping, also known as “MCing” or “rhyming”; graffiti painting, also known as “graf” or “writing”; and “B-boying,” which encompasses hip-hop dance, style, and attitude, along with the sort of virile body language that philosopher Cornel West described as “postural semantics.”

Hip-hop originated in the predominantly African American economically depressed South Bronx section of New York City in the late 1970s. As the hip-hop movement began at society’s margins, its origins are shrouded in myth, enigma, and obfuscatio

rapping is the the dominating subsection of the hip hop culture but rapping is nothing with out deejaying. The beginnings of the rapping, and deejaying components of hip-hop were bound together by the shared environment in which these art forms evolved. The first major hip-hop deejay was DJ Kool Herc (Clive Campbell), an 18-year-old immigrant who introduced the huge sound systems of his native Jamaica to inner-city parties.

Using two turntables, he melded percussive fragments from older records with popular dance songs to create a continuous flow of music. Kool Herc (also known as thegod father of hip hop) and other pioneering hip-hop deejays such as Grand Wizard Theodore, Afrika Bambaataa(from south africa😎, kwa-zulu natal) and Grandmaster Flash isolated and extended the break beat (the part of a dance record where all sounds but the drums drop out), stimulating improvisational dancing.

Rap first came to national prominence in the United States with the release of the Sugarhill Gang’s song “Rapper’s Delight” (1979) on the independent African American-owned label Sugar Hill. Within weeks of its release, it had become a chart-topping phenomenon and given its name to a new genre of pop music. The major pioneers of rapping were Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, Kurtis Blow, and the Cold Crush Brothers, whose Grandmaster Caz is controversially considered by some to be the true author of some of the strongest lyrics in “Rapper’s Delight.” These early MCs and deejays constituted rap’s old school.

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